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Is the Web dying?

 Following my friend Frieda's recent Posterous post [http://frieda.posterous.com/can-we-trust-it] I thought I'd put a few thoughts together by way of support and to perhaps extend the argument.

Frieda’s question was that now e-Tribes had ceased to be (fallen off its perch; gone to meet its maker ...) “How do we solve the issue of web 2.0 reliability without falling into the hands of VLEs? Can it be solved?

What's the plan B ???

1)   First of all: There is no plan B! I'm afraid that the answer is as bleak as that.

2)   Next: I don’t think we can solve the problem of Web 2.0 – it is what it is ...

We’ve always known (I think we have always known) that the web is flaky and that we should only trust it as far as it can be convenient. E-Tribes and similar document hosting web sites (I’m thinking of e-Snips here) have always had the convenient tag for me. I’ve always kept a back-up of any materials posted and simply used the convenience offered by world-wide and round the clock access to host materials for use by or to be shared with others. I lost patience with e-Snips a long time ago as it sought to ‘groovy-up’ the stuff I’d posted and to fix me up with some girl or chap somewhere else on the internet who was gagging for it!!!

Flickr (http://www.flickr.com) and to a lesser extent YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/) are exceptions to this rule for me. Although I keep the majority of images posted to Flickr and most of the video clips on YouTube as files on one of my computers – these are not as ordered or easy to access as those online. Should Flickr fall by the wayside I would have a serious case of depression, which I suspect is what Frieda feels now, as she has invested the same amount of time and effort into e-Tribes as I have into the photo hosting site. The difference between the sites for me is that Flickr has always had a ‘Pro’ level, for which you pay a minimal amount. It’s also backed by Yahoo! I suspect that if Yahoo! went belly-up – it would be the time to worry.

So – does partnership with a world renowned web presence (Google, Yahoo, AOL etc.) mean that a loved Web 2.0 facility will survive? Not really. Jaiku [http://davidsugden.jaiku.com/overview] became part of the Google juggernaut a while ago and is now slowly dying from a lack of real support. Unlike Twitter [http://twitter.com/dsugden], another micro-blogging site, it provide (used to provide) the opportunity to import RSS feeds and to be updated from a phone. This gave huge educational potential, which colleagues and I had begun to explore. It has the ability to ‘group’ discussions in such a way that all contributors could follow the thread – not just those who were being ‘followed’ by the contributor. On Twitter this leads to confusion as only a fraction of any wide reaching discussion can be followed. AND Twitter is now Spam-ridden.

Gabcast [www.gabcast.com] started charging for their provision in March – which caused many of us to back off. It’s still worth paying for the service, if the service fits your needs but (finally a positive point) others have leaped to fill Gabcast’s place. See www.ipadio.com

See http://dsugden.posterous.com/gabcast 
and
http://dsugden.posterous.com/gabcast-replacements

3)   – Finally: “without falling into the hands of VLEs” Nice one Frieda – much more discussion there I think! :-)


David


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Comments (1)

May 06, 2009
Frieda said...
Thanks for your post David. I agree with you that there is no plan B and that if we decide to use such tools we are throwing the die and playing with our luck ('alea jacta est'). However, what I wouldn't like to see is 'fashion' in web 2.0.
Twitter and Facebook for example seem to be in vogue now, even with all the issues Facebook has around 'privacy of data'. Does it mean that we can only rely (or partially rely) on web 2.0 fashionable?

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